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回应夜夜城“牧野”的声明

热度 2已有 9605 次阅读2015-8-18 07:49 |个人分类:网站信息|系统分类:珍珠湾站务| attention, including, database, relevant, request

前日鱼雷提问检测之事我不知何意,后来才得知夜夜城发了个声明。在《网教:从特那包案看杨文斌案》一文中,我以个人身份表示将在三个星期内向夜夜城发出传票。实际上,我在周六下午给 Yeyeclub.com 的 admin contact  proxy4336765@1and1-private-registration.com 发出英文邮件,内容如下:

Dear Yeyeclub.com,

It has come to my attention that several users on your website have engaged malicious and defamatory attacks against me personally. Legal action will be taken against such people within the next few weeks. I hereby request that you preserve relevant records, including but not limited to posted content, IP addresses, email address and database records. Failure to do so may subject you to liabilities.


诽谤受害者要求相关网站保留证据的通知是一种常见的法律程序,也是一种确保证据完整的谨慎措施,发布诽谤攻击言论的网站无须过激反应,甚至对受到网站内容伤害的个人进行一步攻击。保留证据的义务是有明确法律依据的。加州刑法 California Penal Code § 135 规定,任何人在知道相关证据将需要被提交时蓄意销毁或者隐藏证据,可能被判处一年以下有期徒刑。

牧野代表夜夜城的回应指责珍珠湾“采用不正当的方式来谋求扩大站点的影响力”是明确诽谤性言论。其【不可在网上公开呼吁窃取个人隐私。未经法官批准的“私家侦探”行为属于违法行为。】及其后面的内容为影射性诽谤。对此,本人保留对牧野以及夜夜城追究法律责任的权利。我再次公开要求牧野 (链接中检测自称牧野) 保留夜夜城相关数据,包括牧野本人及其其他ID的数据。并且希望牧野同意通过 EMAIL 接受传票,以节省传票送达费用。牧野有任何问题,可与本人EMAIL联系。


补充:

下午我给夜夜城网主发出下列 EMAIL 邮件,要求其停止攻击:

Dear Muye (admin of yeyeclub.com),

In response to your article at http://yeyeclub.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=58&do=blog&id=12754, I have posted a public reply at http://www.zhenzhubay.com/home.php?mod=space&uid=1&do=blog&id=30358, where I concluded that some of your statements are defamatory. 

Based on internet search of the terms "California Muye", I have identified "Muye Norley Liu", also known as "Mason Liu", who graduated from U of Idaho and a member of Trigmax Solutions, as the most likely person that matches your profile. Moreover, there is strong evidence that you are linked to the zhenzhubay user "wuseban". Were I mistaken on either point, please feel free to correct me. Your failure to deny these allegations may constitute admission.

To reduce the level of animosity, I suggest that Yeyeclub.com refrain from making further unfounded accusations on its website and elsewhere.

Sincerely,

Dongxiao Yue, Ph.D.

 

之后发现“牧野”在继续攻击,并声称有律师代表,下面是我给其律师的传真

Wei Zhong

Associate Attorney at Chen & Lee's Law Office
1455 Response Road STE 120
Sacramento, CA 95815

Via fax: (916) 880-5601

 

Dear Mr. Zhong,

 

            I am writing to confirm that you represent the website YEYECLUB.COM and its owner, upon whom I am about to serve discovery requests in connection with an ongoing defamation case. After I informed yeyeclub.com's owner about the prospective discovery and requested him to preserve relevant documents, he went out in to attack me personally in two blog posts, the second of which listed you as legal counsel.

 

            Based on my online investigation, the owner of the Yeyeclub.com is very likely Muye Norley Liu, aka Mason Liu, of Trigmax Solutions, LLC. I believe that many of his statements about me are defamatory, and I may have to institute defamation claims against him personally. I have emailed him to either confirm or deny this so legal papers can be properly directed. If you are indeed counsel for Yeyeclub.com and its owner, please respond to me by telephone below.

 

 

 

            Sincerely,

 

           

 

Dongxiao Yue, Ph.D.

2777 Alvarado Str, Ste C

San Leandro, Ca 94577

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回复 漠孤烟 2015-8-18 10:23
说珍珠湾“采用不正当的方式来谋求扩大站点的影响力”?是公开在网上说的还是在给你邮件里说的?
回复 admin 2015-8-18 10:57
漠孤烟: 说珍珠湾“采用不正当的方式来谋求扩大站点的影响力”?是公开在网上说的还是在给你邮件里说的?
是在其网站 yeyeclub.com
回复 漠孤烟 2015-8-18 11:07
admin: 是在其网站 yeyeclub.com
先正式书面要求其删除吧。
回复 admin 2015-8-18 11:10
漠孤烟: 先正式书面要求其删除吧。
无效。我都已经发EMAIL给他,请他不要继续无端指责,但他却继续攻击。
回复 漠孤烟 2015-8-18 11:16
admin: 无效。我都已经发EMAIL给他,请他不要继续无端指责,但他却继续攻击。
他怎么做是他的事。你最好是多次请他删除。
回复 admin 2015-8-18 11:21
漠孤烟: 他怎么做是他的事。你最好是多次请他删除。
已经发了。明天跟他律师通话,看能否劝诫。

为什么我要求其保留证据这样非常正常的事情引发如此大的反应? 很可能有难言之隐。
回复 漠孤烟 2015-8-18 11:38
admin: 已经发了。明天跟他律师通话,看能否劝诫。

为什么我要求其保留证据这样非常正常的事情引发如此大的反应? 很可能有难言之隐。 ...
律师应该明白有些事不是威胁,应该知道不良信息的点击数和时间都是计算伤害的依据之一,所以劝其删除不仅仅是法律步骤,也是诚恳的想解决问题的表示。
回复 admin 2015-8-18 11:42
漠孤烟: 律师应该明白有些事不是威胁,应该知道不良信息的点击数和时间都是计算伤害的依据之一,所以劝其删除不仅仅是法律步骤,也是诚恳的想解决问题的表示。 ...
本来第三方取证是很常见的事情。方舟子博士就很快予以了回应。这是办网站经常遇到的情况,珍珠湾的隐私规则就有相关条款。

牧野为何会把第三方取证当成对夜夜城的起诉呢? 这值得逻辑思考。
回复 漠孤烟 2015-8-18 11:51
admin: 本来第三方取证是很常见的事情。方舟子博士就很快予以了回应。这是办网站经常遇到的情况,珍珠湾的隐私规则就有相关条款。

牧野为何会把第三方取证当成对夜夜城 ...
有些事能忍就忍了,忍不了就走法律,就这么简单~
回复 admin 2015-8-18 12:27
漠孤烟: Wuseban是谁我不知道,但我个人认为猜测没有意义。有些事能忍就忍了,忍不了就走法律,就这么简单~
明天给其律师通话确认下。如果其律师不肯回答,答案也就清楚了。
回复 鱼雷一号 2015-9-2 13:22
我当时看到检测的回复,感到TA是误会了你的意思了。把取证传票当成了你要对TA打官司。所以给你提了点法律方面的术语请你解释,你也解释得很清楚。估计检测没有到你这边来看,加之一些人煽风点火,让他更认为是你要告他。我觉得尽量还是通过E-mail把这个过程的一些误会解释清楚。

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